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The Geography of Thought: How Asians and Westerners Think Differently...and Why

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When psychologist Richard E. Nisbett showed an animated underwater scene to his American students, they zeroed in on a big fish swimming among smaller fish. Japanese observers instead commented on the background environment -- and the different "seeings" are a clue to profound cognitive differences between Westerners and East Asians. As Nisbett shows in The Geography of Thought, people think about -- and even see -- the world differently because of differing ecologies, social structures, philosophies, and educational systems that date back to ancient Greece and China. The Geography of Thought documents Professor Nisbett's groundbreaking research in cultural psychology, addressing questions such as:

Why did the ancient Chinese excel at algebra and arithmetic, but not geometry, the brilliant achievement of such Greeks as Euclid? Why do East Asians find it so difficult to disentangle an object from its surroundings? Why do Western infants learn nouns more rapidly than verbs, when it is the other way around in East Asia?

At a moment in history when the need for cross-cultural understanding and collaboration have never been more important, The Geography of Thought offers both a map to that gulf and a blueprint for a bridge that might be able to span it.

 

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An interesting point Nisbett makes regarding the globalization of American Culture is a description of Francis Fukuyama's point of view in "The End of History" that "everyone is really an American at heart, or if not, it's only a matter of time until they will be". have become modern without becoming very Western." (p. Here I certainly wonder if the sort of study Charles Taylor gives us in either "Sources of the Self" or "A Secular Age" details a historical evolution that offers a different explanation of these differences in perspective - especially since the languages seem relatively persistent while the cultural focus changes. New vocabulary is created and meanings change with cultural developments but the logic of the language seems to remain the same. 224) Nisbett continues with the suggestion that convergence might be more likely. So what kind of intelligence the fluency gives a person depends on the sort of intelligence the linguistic tools make possible. Perhaps. A main result - intelligence comes from linguistic fluency.

Is this book just crying Whorf. 161) and "There is also clearly an effect of language independent of culture - but only for the coordinate speakers from China and Taiwan. An interesting issue concerns the difference between compound bilinguals and coordinate bilinguals. Would this also be reflected in an individuals maturation. If so, this must certainly weaken the thesis, at least the strong Whorfian thesis, that Nesbitt seems to support. Can both be true. Or do modern investigation techniques help support the thesis that language structures thought. In this book Nisbett outlines the relationships between different languages and aspects of apparent perception using much new empirical support from a host of studies.

But societies. They responded very differently depending on whether they are tested in Chinese or in English." (p. A pretty clear conclusion follows this study: "There is an effect of culture on thought independent of language." (p. Perhaps the weakness of each can be enhanced towards the more logical by an appreciation of both. In this way ancient Greeks still had the grammar but the vocabulary evolves through cultural periods.

220) But describing Huntington's views as the contrary Nisbett says "Westerners tend to confuse modernization - defined as industrialization, a more complex occupational structure, increased wealth and social mobility, greater literacy, ad urbanization - with Westernization. (This reminds me of Peter Berger's book "The Heretical Imperative"). (p. Keep in mind that Nisbett later publishes his book "Intelligence and How to Get It" which makes use of much of the same work in building the thesis that fluency comes from immersion and fluent parents result in more fluent children. 162) So tentatively "language does indeed influence thought so long as different languages are plausibly associated with different systems of representation." Both cultural groups tend to make logical errors but each shows light on the other.

Romantics emphasize individualism more than the Scholastics did. One focus of the book argues European languages lead more to an individualist perspective while Chinese leads more towards a communal one. What if the logical structure of the language - especially the grammar - predisposes speakers to evolve a certain type of perspective.

The most influential person in Chinese history never tried to explain where the universe came from, what happens when you die, or what the meaning of life is. Westerners, thinking in terms of categories, put the panda with the monkey.Nisbett's treats Asians and Europeans fairly and has no problem recognizing the strengths and weaknesses of each way of thought. Unsurprisingly, Western children acquire nouns faster than verbs. This lack of curiosity extended into science. While ancient China was in many ways more technologically advanced than ancient Greece, knowledge for its own sake was never valued. Asians, on the other hand, learn verbs and nouns at about the same rate. Westerners tell the story from the 1st person point of view. Experiments have been done in which groups of students are given three objects, say a monkey, panda and banana and asked which two go together.

Asians began the description from a holistic point of view. An apple is always an apple, but "hit" requires somebody to do the hitting and someone to be hit. When Westerners answer it they say things like "I'm fun, nice, outgoing." When Asians answer the question, they tend to say things like "I am serious at work" or "I'm happy with my family." It's hard for them conceptualize an "I" outside of a specific context. There is no suffix that corresponds to the English "-ness" either.

The goal was to go around Asia, the Middle East and Africa to convince the rest of the world's known people that the Chinese were superior in every way. The ancient Greeks in contrast wrote and debated tirelessly about abstract ideas that had no connection to the real world. Interestingly, in evolutionary psychology gender differences that show up in studies are usually assumed to beat least partly biologically based while race differences are chalked up exclusively to culture. If a Korean wants to ask someone to come to dinner, not only does the word for "you" depend on context but the word for "dinner". Much is made of the fact that Asians can be primed to think like Europeans (by for example, reading a story with an individualistic protagonist) and vice versa but that doesn't do away with inherent racial differences.

The mental differences between racial groups goes way beyond IQ.Before talking about what's been found in laboratory, the author treats us to his own research into the philosophy, religion, science, ethnics and worldview of the ancient East and West. This difference is part of a pattern of Westerners seeing the part in isolation and Easterners talking a field's eye view. They had no desire to learn about the discoveries or cultures of the peoples they came across. There is no word for "individualism" either; the closest thing is one that translates as "selfishness." Japanese has no generic word for "I". Asians tells the story in the 3rd person.

When some Africans tried to show the Chinese travelers a giraffe they weren't interested.The Eastern dislike of abstractions shows up in language. Whether the world is made up of nouns and things or verbs and events depends on the perspective. Before University of Michigan psychologist Richard Nisbett became the darling of the establishment media for telling them what they wanted to hear about black/white differences, he was best known for his research into Asian/European differences that culminated in his 2003 book The Geography of Thought. The Confucian system of the Chinese saw the individual as a brother, sister, mother, servant, etc in relation to others. In another interesting experiment, Asians and Westerners are asked to tell a story about when they were at the center of attention.

In China the question never came up; everything was continuous and blended into everything else. In the fifteenth century the Chinese set out with hundreds of ships superior to anything ever known in the West. Although he was as much an environmentalist then as he is now, chalking up all differences to "culture," the data brought together here is a gold mine for race realists. It's always been thought that nouns are easier to learn than verbs because they can be understood outside of a fixed situation. Another interesting aspect of the ethical/religious system of Confucianism is that it's missing much of what Westerners would associate with a religion.

Until Buddhism came along there was no "why" to the Chinese universe. If two groups differ in testosterone, priming the lower testosterone group with pictures of naked girls doesn't prove that the two races are potentially equal in sex drive. There exists a genetic world out there beyond IQ that helps determine our social structures, politics and history. The ancient Greeks debated whether the world was made of individual atoms or simply material. Nisbett doesn't connect the dots between our respective cultures and natures but there's enough in this work for the reader to do so himself. Differences exist in the way children acquire language. His unwillingness to consider biological differences is disappointing but if he did he may have never got the funding needed to carry out these experiments.

"It's a fish, maybe a trout." Asians likewise are better at remembering background information and worse at remembering a previously seen object taken out of context. It influences our religions and ideas of right and wrong. "Tell me about yourself" seems like a pretty straightforward question. "It looks like a pond, the water is blue." Westerners started with the individual object that stood out. Snow can be white, and you can even talk about the whiteness of the snow, but not whiteness as a concept in and of itself. Asians and Europeans were shown a picture with a big fish swimming in a body of water.

The ancient Greeks invented the concept of the individual, an agent with its own will. Easterners, thinking in terms of relationships, will put the monkey with the banana. A man talking to his child, a girl talking to a sibling and a woman giving a speech each use a different term. Confucianism only concerned itself with proper social relations and real world success. Chinese has no word for "size." If you want to buy someone shoes, you need to know the "big-small" of their feet.

Certain thing I didn't like, though. The Geography of thought is a pretty good book, content-wise. But overall, the book gave me a lot and helped me understand certain differences between the two cultures. Sometimes I felt that the author keeps writing about the same thing over and over again. I learned a lot, since I hadn't come accross this topic before. Very interesting, surprising and informative.

In other words, a neat little bundle of discrete boxes that the world & life is modeled as. However, this is not really perceived as detrimental to personality-growth. I think that this is one of the better books I read this year - in spite of the fact that, in general, we tend to like things that work well with our own personal model of the world - whether this is the objective truth or not.This book every now & then is a little harsh of what it calls "the western ways of thinking". I always used to wonder why "Out-of-the-box" was such a powerful phrase in the west, while as an idiomatic expression it had little sway over me. But Nisbett writes engagingly, & whether you agree with his model or not - this book will definitely work you up. Nisbett's study finds that most Oriental families decide for their children, that children have no real scope for autonomous decision-making even for themselves.

Nisbett's book is full of such nuances & differences between eastern & western ways of thinking. Most of us do not like to confront, while the west does a much better job of it because it objectifies the conflict separating out the people involved in it. Science & Mathematics are religions in their own right for Indian students - you just HAVE to be good at these - you can run; but you can't hide.I think that one can also look at conflict-resolution as a bit of a differentiator. The obvious problem with writing about something as macro-level as culture is that you can find numerous exceptions to the broad framework. In fact, I distinctly remember that I was rather overjoyed everytime my opinion was sought about something.The other interesting bit about children really is the denial of any intrinsic ability for a given skill, & the emphasis on practice as the way to honing a skill.

This books goes on the explain the western inclination to codify, compartmentalize, devise rules & laws & a general love of "orderliness". Most Indians continue to seek opinions & agreements on their personal decisions (buying property, car, investments) from their elders in the family upto a fairly advanced age. From my own experience, though Indians are not really studied & talked about in this book, I can tell of a few truths. Consequently, thinking "out-of-the-box" constitutes a paradigm shift in west - but is not as revolutionary a concept in the Orient. Many Americans may not identify with the typical westerner definition in Nisbett's book, just as all Orientals may not see the pond for the fish.

"While a special occasion for the ancient Greek might mean attendance at plays and poetry readings a special occasion for the Chinese.would be an opportunity to visit friends and family." Don't Nisbett know that Chinese watch operas and make poems while visiting families. Have Nisbett read any classical Chinese literature, including The Dream of the Red Chamber, Journey to the West (Monkey), or Liao Zhai Zhi Yi. I appreciated the general psychological approaches and some basic notions behind the book until I noticed how ethnocentric the writing is. Nisbett also talked about the literature such as Odyssey and the Iliad have personalities that are fully formed and individuated. As many readers mentioned, this book largely simplifies lots of aspects of the east and west differences, which contributes to its falling down a very dangerous slope: ethnocentrism. (As a matter of fact, the author even admitted that the Greek created the word "ethnocentric". Here are just a couple of examples from the beginning of the book.

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